
We are therefore left with a few options;
1) Public diaries must be Premium Accounts. At least then we'd be getting paid to look after the kindergarten.
2) Close the site completely cos at the moment its not much more than a thorn in our sides.
3) Open the site completely and say its a free for all. (Much like all the other diary sites out there). This would mean we quit responding to 'abuse' type emails unless they come from a lawyer, and since the US privacy laws and recent case law indicate that we don't have to give out details even then, probably we wouldn't bother.
4) Tighten the line and simply delete without warning any diary entry that references another diarist whether directly or indirectly if it gets complained about.
Beware the double edged sword of number 4, since even the more innocent amongst you risk losing entries.
Number 5, of course, which doesn't even bear mentioning in the list because its so unlikely to ever happen and that is that everyone grows the hell up. To be fair though again its only a few who aren't grown up sucking in the rest.
You all read the terms and conditions before you sign up. You all know identifying other diarists or real people isn't allowed. Yet still you write parody entries, and make insane references to other people whether or not they should be dragged into anything.
Go change your nappies people. We're not putting up with it any more. We haven't decided which option we're going for yet, but I am scheduling a meeting with Matt and Les to decide. Incidentally, it was Matt that SMS'd me this morning to suggest option 1 because its HIM that pissed off with the minority who make it bad for the majority. So well done guys, you got to Mr Placid as well. I never knew anyone less flappable than Matt, but you succeeded. Congrats.
Steve.
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I'm sorry it's come to a decision like this..
is it really about the money..or is it about the childish games?
..if it's soley about the parodies..then maybe you can attach a program that reports the diary users IP number for everyone to see.
soon parody diaries will be identified ..as will multiple diaries..
*shrug*
just a suggestion.
I personally wouldn't like to see the diary become a pay only site..
this is from a selfish position..
I don't have the money to pay for it.. :(
anyway...
obviously the decision is yours to make..
Make it so that anyone who has more than one diary has to either state in their diaries what their usernames are, or else make one of them private?? Like for example, lets say that there are 2 deardiary admin diaries, a 1 and a 2. deardiary1 has to put something on the menu bar that they are also deardiary2 and vice versa, or make on of them private???
I don't know if that would help, just trying to find a way to "stop the madness!!!"
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I know in a lot of chat rooms, they can trace offensive people by ip addy, and immediately lock them out by way of a cookie.
Too bad there is not a way to get everyone who comes to leave a comment to have to fill out a form first with a valid e-mail address , name and password... then they can leave comments. Send an email to them to confirm who they are,and from there, anytime they want to leave a comment, they must sign in with their username and password!
No one can annonymously leave messages then, and you can block them later if you need to.
Better to block the babies, until they learn to grow up some, than to punish everyone .
By the way, thank you guys for e-mailing back so quickly, and also , I just got my first SQL & PL/SQL certification! (4 more to go!)
;)
~CM~
But...
*stands up an applauds the first one*
I am sorry it has come to this :o(
Why can't ppl just get along...
An if they can't do that...
Then quit slanderin others?
Is that so hard to do?
An r the rules so hard to understand?
I don't think so!
*snuggles for a kewl team*
Buggie
Star
I did leave some comments on one of the diaries the other day which was taking the p*** out of the rest of us. They mentioned people who i communicate with, and I was so angry!
Since I left two comments on there, no one else has written anymore and no more diary entries have appeared!
Only caught up with this Sunday, as I've been away, as my regular readers will know!
We can do without people like this on the system.
Cutypops
lol..actually, i think that just deleting flaming entries is a good idea..i know that usually when i write a entry like that (kinda like yesterday!) i do it in anger and after a few hours i delete it anyway.
well..i hope you guys can calm down now..take care
sarah
What about those of us who address an entry to certain other diarist but it isn't in a bad way? Or even just answering someone's comments with information?
I'm hoping this option doesn't include that at all.
-M.
Would you even read the email or would you just delete my diary immediately?
snot like i get involved in these stupidities anyway.
I would hate to see this site dissapear because of a few kids who couldnt keep it in their pants.
I vote for just deleting their diaries and thats that.
I'm sorry to know that the situation here has driven even Matt so far up the wall that he's pissed off. I'm surprised by this post because until I read the entry from Buggie's diary today, I had no idea that any of this type of stuff was going on. Parody diaries of real diaries and otherwise - that's really going out of your way to hurt and venge yourself on another person. I guess that the more precautions we've installed - like blocking comments and requiring usernames to leave comments and such - people have found ways to get around that and still pursue their adversary.
I like and respect all of you who run dear diary, and thus I wish that I could say I think that option 4 is going to be the right one, but I do not. I can see it causing you a lot more anguish than it solves. I have written about, in my time, a certain person who was the center of my world, my thoughts and otherwise for a long period of time, and in the long run I found out that I didn't like him very much. He was a friend and lover, and I talked about him because he was critical to my life. Let's say that he creates a diary here, and then complains that I am writing about him and I am not allowed to write about another diarist on dear diary? If I write about my Mother, and she creates a diary and doesn't want me to have any entries that mention her - will those all be erased? How can someone keep a diary and *not* talk about their Mothers?
Or let's say that I made a reference to another diarist 10 months ago in my diary and now, with this new law, he wants that old entry deleted to enforce the new rule. You could have a lot of problems, going through the erasing entries because someone out there is offended.
Personally, I think that you have to control the site as best you can, and I'm very sorry that its become such an ordeal for you. However, I didn't even know this was happening, and I'm sure there are many other people who use this service who have no idea about the abuse that's happening and find it very confusing and, I'm sad to say, <b>insulting</b> to be called spoken to in the way of the posts above. I am not a child who needs someone to change my nappies, and most of the people who use this service aren't. If you could spare the tone and the insults for those of us who don't create parody diaries or abuse the system, we'd appreciate it.
I use Dear Diary as its supposed to be used, I am certainly not a whiney and complainy customer of yours, and I pay for the service because I enjoy it and appreciate your hard work and want the site to be continue. However, I am not comfortable with overt censorship. If I read another person's diary, and it makes me think of something, then I might mention them when I write my own entry. If someone doesn't want this to happen, then all the diaries should be private anyway, so we don't read about and become involved in each others lives. Or even just mildly interested in each others lives.
The tantalition of Dear Diary is taht you can read another person's diary and peek into their private lives. The diaries are made public, so there's a subtle invitation into reading them. And obviously people should treat other's diaries with respect. I know taht hasn't always happened to me, because there are punks out there who like to say mean things or otherwise, or they get their jollies out of anonymously creating chaos online. However, if people are not going to be inspired by, interested in, moved or otherwise curious and involved in another diarists lives - the only way to accomplish that is to make the diaries themselves private, which would defeat the purpose of the site.
My favorite option - find the idiots, the theives and the law breakers and put them in jail. Remove them from the mess. See if it gets better. Like others have suggested, you can block people from this site. I would prefer it if you used your own judgement and deleted the accounts of people who are obviously using their diaries or dear diary accounts to attack, hurt or make fun of the real users rather than threaten to remove dear diary even from those of us who love and pay for the service.
- Psyche