Sparkler
No More Drama

Is this Anger Justified?
Sat Jan 12 2002

Talked to H tonight.


He told me that the pastor who we met with. The one I really like and who conducts the recovery group. Anyways H says he has been talking to him a lot on the phone.


The H admitted his anger to him he says. That he has driven into fence posts, punched holes in walls, broken things.


Then the pastor said "Every hot blooded male has done such a thing, its part of being male. Its natural instinct"


I just cringed and immediatly want to interrupt. It reminds me of the saying "Boys will Boys" excusing certain mens behaviors that are wrong.


Ok so maybe its natural that we get angered by actions. But does everyone act out destructively? I said to H "My Dad never displayed these actions"


He said then the pastor asked him "Well what happened to cause that anger?"


So now I said to H "Are you saying that type of anger is justified if your wife does something wrong or that you dont agree with?"


Am I alone here? So everytime a bill showed up in the mail I knew nothing about that H created without telling me, I should have broken something, drove erratic? All of that and it been justified?


Instead I cried, told him that he was hurting us financially. Sometimes I had to leave the house. I once went to the park nearby, called a girlfriend and just cried feeling helpless. She in turn told me his creating debts and then hiding them from me, me being the one who handled the finances. H would dump his crap on me, that that was a form of abuse.


So he was hurting me? Did it give me reason to act out? NO!


Im learning one thing in the womens group. That people do abuse, and no we cant make them act different, But we can choose what we will allow. And they teach abusers that its not ok to hurt someone. Regardless of what they do, if they do not like what someone is doing, that is where a person sets up there own boundary. If I do something H dissaproves of, or is wrong. He can choose to say "I cannot be with you" and remove himself from the situation, right?


This is the one area that makes being a Christian and this whole situation so difficult for me. There doesnt seem to be very many who have a grip on abuse and christianity and marriage problems.

2 Comments
  • From:
    JustMatthew (Legacy)
    On:
    Sat Jan 12 2002
    Jesus displaced great anger. He turned over the tables in the temple. People describe that as a "Holy Rage." - He was very simply furious.

    Anger isn't the issue - it should be how we react to it. I'm a passifist - and I hate that I can't be "Male" because of it. ;) I'm just able to hold things on the inside. (Let them fester and explode into acts of revenge - which I shouldn't let happen either.) The point is - if your angry, control it - destroying (other people's?) fences is wrong. Putting a hole in your wall is downright scary. I think we as Christians need to teach our "brothers and sisters" to handle our anger in other ways - and let it out when it needs to be let out. As Jesus needed to get his point across in the temple that day 2000 years ago.

    I have problems with people writting off something as being "Male" or "Men will be Men" - because I fit few "Male" stero-types and it pisses me off. What am I? I need a new gender description if that's what being male is. ;)

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    Other wise, I enjoy your jounral and lookforward to reading more of it! :)
    -JustMatthew

  • From:
    LisaMarie (Legacy)
    On:
    Mon Jan 14 2002
    Remember...to every story there are two sides. Are you certain that the Pastor said that? Has your H always been 100% honest with you? What makes you believe that what he said the Pastor said is true? No matter what he said was said to him it is no reason for abuse of any type. That's why I prefer couples being in counseling together. Its harder to play the 'he said, she said' game and its also harder to lie to the person doing the counseling.