Interesting
Tue Oct 05 2004

OK, first and foremost, I’m not telling anyone how to vote, or who to vote for. I found this information interesting. There are many out there who will vehemently disagree with this, and others who will unequivocally agree with it.

That being said…

I read a poll today that asked military members “If the presidential election were held today, for whom would you vote?”

Of active duty members, 72% would vote for Bush, 17% for Kerry, 6% were undecided and the remaining 5% was split between Nader, other and declined to answer. In the Guard and Reserve, 73% would vote for Bush and 18% for Kerry (the remaining percentage mirrors that of the active duty).

Of the active duty, those polled who had not been deployed since September 11, 2001, 72% would vote for Bush and 18% for Kerry. Those polled who had been deployed for two or more months since September 11, 2001, 74% would vote for Bush and 17% for Kerry.

In the Guard and Reserve, of those polled who had not been called to active duty since 9/11, 71% Bush, 21% Kerry. Those who had been activated since 9/11, 76% Bush, 17% Kerry.

Of military members who had not been deployed to a combat zone since 9/11, 73% Bush, 19% Kerry. Those who had been deployed to a combat zone since 9/11, 76% Bush, 16% Kerry.

Here is the poll that really surprised me. When asked “Do you approve of the way President Bush is handling the situation in Iraq?” Active Duty responded with 60% approval and 23% disapproval. Guard and Reserve responded with 63% approval and 25% disapproval. The remaining percentages in both groups were equally split between “declined to answer” and “no opinion”.

Also asked was “In making your decision about voting for president, how important is the military service record of the candidates? The results, active duty gave 47% somewhat important, 19% somewhat unimportant, 12% very important, and the remaining split evenly between no opinion and very unimportant. The Guard and Reserves responded with 54% somewhat important, 16% very important, 14% somewhat unimportant and the rest also evenly split between no opinion and very unimportant.

To the question “Do George W. Bush’s actions while in the National Guard make you more or less likely to vote for him, or not much effect on your vote? Active duty replied with 73% not much effect, 12% less likely, 6% more likely and the rest no opinion. The Guard and Reserves responded with 8% not much effect, 16% less likely, 10% more likely and the remainder no opinion.

The responses to whether “John Kerry’s combat experiences in the Vietnam War make you more or less likely to vote for him, or not have much effect on your vote?”
Not much effect: Active 58%, Guard & Reserve 53% Less likely: Active 21%, Guard & Reserve 26%. More likely: Active 12%, Guard & Reserve 15%. Again the remaining percentages had no opinion.

Here was another surprising one. “Do John Kerry’s anti-war activities after he returned from serving in the Vietnam War make you more or less likely to vote for him, or will they not have much effect on your vote?” Less likely: Active 65%, Guard & Reserve 67%. Not much effect: Active 24%, Guard & Reserve 20%. More likely: Active 7%, Guard & Reserve 9%. The rest held no opinion.

I don’t know if these results echo the election during WW2, in which the country felt they shouldn’t changes horses in the middle of a race (terminology from those days, not my own) and wanted to maintain consistency while the country was at war, or if we will instead follow in the footsteps of the Vietnam era, with a change in leadership during a war, and the ensuing conflicts and confusion the military members found themselves in at that time.

I will be interested in seeing the debate tonight, and interested in the way it is picked apart afterwards. I found it curious last week that I came away from the debate with an impression that neither candidate truly came out ahead of the other, but those “professionals” who scrutinized if afterwards held a different opinion. I was also amused by the comments that Bush looked angry, when to me it just looked like his contacts were bugging him. But I’m not a professional and haven’t been trained in facial expression translation, what do I know?

In the big picture of this election, the military makes up a small percentage of voters. I don’t know that their votes will be what decide the election, but I do know that the public should be aware of where the military members stand in regards to the issues surrounding the election. The war in Iraq, needless to say, is one of the major issues. By no means is it the only issue though.

I think it is important for the public to know that a majority of the military members support what the current president is doing. They believe in the actions he is taking with regards to Iraq. For those protestors out there touting slogans to bring our soldiers, seamen and airmen home, many of those believe in and support the mission they are on. You might want to ask them first if they want you making these protests “on their behalf”. Don’t get me wrong. No one “wants” to go to war. But if our military members believe there is a job to be done, don’t get in their way of doing it. If you want to protest the war, don’t hide behind the excuse of wanting to bring our soldiers home.

I could go on more on this, but I've rambled enough and given enough fodder to the flames of protest about this subject.


7 Comments
  • From:
    Pinkspiritlady (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Oct 05 2004
    It is pretty sad if active duty and National Guard really do not care about a mans military record. Should we all just disregard their service records too? Also, John Kerry served his country, fulfilled his duty and THEN AFTER seeing things, that worried him. After seeing things first hand, about the safety and reasons for the military being involved in Vietnam he used his constitutional right to free speech to express his concerns. He was defending his friends in the military and trying to help protect them. He stood up for our country in fighting, serving, and using our political system. At least he has never run from a fight. Or had his "daddy" bail him out.
  • From:
    InStitches (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Oct 05 2004
    "If you want to protest the war, don?t hide behind the excuse of wanting to bring our soldiers home."

    And hide they do, using supposed protection of our troops as a means of looking supportive of them while in reality tearing down everything they have fought to accomplish.

    If anyone really wants to support our troops, they would be praying daily for their safety and success in whatever mission they are sent to accomplish. They would broadcast all the good things our troops are accomplishing. They would cheer them when they come home with a proud "well done, mission accomplished".

  • From:
    Yetzirah (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Oct 05 2004
    RYQ.... Good eye. Applesauce in the big jars. :-)

    Boy that butter is ..... wow...... really good.
    So I have made two batches, using different kinds of apples and both batches were great. I did have to add a little more sugar and spice to the second run, but I think I put a few more apples in it. It's a good recipe.

  • From:
    Yetzirah (Legacy)
    On:
    Tue Oct 05 2004
    Same recipe as on the diary.
  • From:
    ImNotLisa (Legacy)
    On:
    Wed Oct 06 2004
    Alli, where did you get those figures? I know Rick would love to quote them too, on a website he posts on occasionally. I'm agreeing with you wholeheartedly!
  • From:
    Pragmatist (Legacy)
    On:
    Wed Oct 06 2004
    Those statistics are surprising. I wonder who did the poll.

    Better not let your kids get access to this entry, because I'm going to tell how MY kids tortured ME.

    They would get their mean little heads together and come up with a sure-fire plan to irritate mom. Then they would make bets with each other as to how long it would take me to notice something amiss, and what would I yell at them.

    Those kids had vicious minds.

    And I let them live.
  • From:
    Sezrah (Legacy)
    On:
    Wed Oct 06 2004
    interesting stuff here, especially the military polls, it does not surprise me one little bit. the more time i spend rubbing shoulders with some of the deployed guys the more i respect the nature of their job and them as people called to go beyond anything the rest of us will ever be likely to experience in our protected lifetimes